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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s not our Fault</title>
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		<title>By: A Doctor&#8217;s Lamentation &#171; IBY&#8217;s Island Universe</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2008/09/09/its-not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2489</link>
		<dc:creator>A Doctor&#8217;s Lamentation &#171; IBY&#8217;s Island Universe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 20:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and sometimes, you feel like they don&#8217;t care. Well, it is not the doctor&#8217;s fault, and here is why. The reality is that doctors face an annoyance called the bureaucracy. It is like a swarm of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and sometimes, you feel like they don&#8217;t care. Well, it is not the doctor&#8217;s fault, and here is why. The reality is that doctors face an annoyance called the bureaucracy. It is like a swarm of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Roy M. Poses MD</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2008/09/09/its-not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2448</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy M. Poses MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 14:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Robin&#039;s comment above:

I suppose online communication could be viewed as relatively new.  I guess email has been in general use since the mid-1990s, and the internet really got going around 10 years ago.

Doctors have been communicating with patients via telephone since when? - the 1940&#039;s .  That isn&#039;t even close to new.  

So I suggest that this demonstrates how absurd CMS&#039; approach (now driven by the RUC) to paying generalist physicians is.  That it took, what? - 60+ years to even consider whether physicians&#039; time on the phone taking care of or in support of patients ought to be paid is just ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Robin&#8217;s comment above:</p>
<p>I suppose online communication could be viewed as relatively new.  I guess email has been in general use since the mid-1990s, and the internet really got going around 10 years ago.</p>
<p>Doctors have been communicating with patients via telephone since when? &#8211; the 1940&#8217;s .  That isn&#8217;t even close to new.  </p>
<p>So I suggest that this demonstrates how absurd CMS&#8217; approach (now driven by the RUC) to paying generalist physicians is.  That it took, what? &#8211; 60+ years to even consider whether physicians&#8217; time on the phone taking care of or in support of patients ought to be paid is just ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2008/09/09/its-not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2445</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob:  This is a great post...you speak for probably the majority of practicing physicians, particularly in primary care!  I have been aware of the CPT codes for e-mail and phone services and think that Doctors or one of our organizations should band together to post which insurance companies do and do not pay for these codes (and any others for that matter).  I&#039;ve heard that this might be called collusion and might cause anti-trust stirrings.  I beg to differ....we need to have access to this information and so do our patients.  We should figure out a way to do this in order to hold insurance companies accountable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob:  This is a great post&#8230;you speak for probably the majority of practicing physicians, particularly in primary care!  I have been aware of the CPT codes for e-mail and phone services and think that Doctors or one of our organizations should band together to post which insurance companies do and do not pay for these codes (and any others for that matter).  I&#8217;ve heard that this might be called collusion and might cause anti-trust stirrings.  I beg to differ&#8230;.we need to have access to this information and so do our patients.  We should figure out a way to do this in order to hold insurance companies accountable.</p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2008/09/09/its-not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2444</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 15:47:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/570369_print&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CPT 2008: A Glimpse of the Future of Family Medicine?&lt;/a&gt;

Cindy Hughes, CPC

Fam Pract Manag. 2008;15(1):16-18,21. ©2008 American Academy of Family Physicians
Posted 03/13/2008

Introduction
This year&#039;s CPT update won&#039;t dramatically affect the way you code the services you provide in face-to-face visits. However, it does recognize new ways of delivering health care services. The addition of codes for telephone and online evaluations reflect a reality anticipated in the Future of Family Medicine report - one in which &quot;interactions will not be limited to traditional, individual, face-to-face encounters between the patient and the family physician.&quot;[1] Time will tell whether health insurers share this same vision; at press time, it was unclear whether any of the major plans would provide reimbursement for the services these codes represent.

A table summarizing these and other changes most likely to affect family physicians is available at http://www.aafp.org/fpm/20080100/cptchanges2008.pdf.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/570369_print" rel="nofollow">CPT 2008: A Glimpse of the Future of Family Medicine?</a></p>
<p>Cindy Hughes, CPC</p>
<p>Fam Pract Manag. 2008;15(1):16-18,21. ©2008 American Academy of Family Physicians<br />
Posted 03/13/2008</p>
<p>Introduction<br />
This year&#8217;s CPT update won&#8217;t dramatically affect the way you code the services you provide in face-to-face visits. However, it does recognize new ways of delivering health care services. The addition of codes for telephone and online evaluations reflect a reality anticipated in the Future of Family Medicine report &#8211; one in which &#8220;interactions will not be limited to traditional, individual, face-to-face encounters between the patient and the family physician.&#8221;[1] Time will tell whether health insurers share this same vision; at press time, it was unclear whether any of the major plans would provide reimbursement for the services these codes represent.</p>
<p>A table summarizing these and other changes most likely to affect family physicians is available at <a href="http://www.aafp.org/fpm/20080100/cptchanges2008.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.aafp.org/fpm/20080100/cptchanges2008.pdf</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: The Happy Hospitalist</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2008/09/09/its-not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2441</link>
		<dc:creator>The Happy Hospitalist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 23:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doc,  I think there was a new ruling from CMS that allowed charging (and collecting) for phone calls.  I would have to do some digging to find it, but I&quot;m pretty sure I didn&#039;t hallucinate it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doc,  I think there was a new ruling from CMS that allowed charging (and collecting) for phone calls.  I would have to do some digging to find it, but I&#8221;m pretty sure I didn&#8217;t hallucinate it.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy M. Poses MD</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2008/09/09/its-not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2431</link>
		<dc:creator>Roy M. Poses MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great post, but you didn&#039;t explain how the nutty fee for service pay schedule, which is responsible for much of the problems you note, was imposed on us by Medicare, with the acquiescence of nearly all managed care organizations and health insurers, and is a product of Medicare&#039;s collaboration with the mysterious AMA-sponsored RUC (RBRVS Update Committee). See:
http://hcrenewal.blogspot.com/2008/07/can-we-fix-medicare-while-pretending.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great post, but you didn&#8217;t explain how the nutty fee for service pay schedule, which is responsible for much of the problems you note, was imposed on us by Medicare, with the acquiescence of nearly all managed care organizations and health insurers, and is a product of Medicare&#8217;s collaboration with the mysterious AMA-sponsored RUC (RBRVS Update Committee). See:<br />
<a href="http://hcrenewal.blogspot.com/2008/07/can-we-fix-medicare-while-pretending.html" rel="nofollow">http://hcrenewal.blogspot.com/2008/07/can-we-fix-medicare-while-pretending.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: cl</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2008/09/09/its-not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2430</link>
		<dc:creator>cl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I had discovered your blog while I was dating my last boyfriend - a pediatrician.  It&#039;s just helped me understand the pressures of the profession in a way he never could.  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I had discovered your blog while I was dating my last boyfriend &#8211; a pediatrician.  It&#8217;s just helped me understand the pressures of the profession in a way he never could.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Hank Roberts</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2008/09/09/its-not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2429</link>
		<dc:creator>Hank Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:57:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years back, I asked my then &#039;primary care&#039; doctor if I could pay out of my own pocket to have a more thorough physical exam, above the level and few minutes of time allowed by the insurance company.

She said by her contract with the insurance company, she wasn&#039;t allowed to do that.  She quit being a doctor not long after that, the third doctor I&#039;ve had in a row who quit practicing after expressing frustration with insurance rules.

On the other hand, I&#039;ve started asking medical people what they personally would do about routine screening examinations, annual tests, and so on.  Mostly they say they don&#039;t bother with that stuff.  And statistically they&#039;re no worse off, I gather.

I once talked with a pathologist at some length and he told me that one conclusion he&#039;d come to after years of work is that he always avoids elective surgery of any sort.

I&#039;m starting to agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years back, I asked my then &#8216;primary care&#8217; doctor if I could pay out of my own pocket to have a more thorough physical exam, above the level and few minutes of time allowed by the insurance company.</p>
<p>She said by her contract with the insurance company, she wasn&#8217;t allowed to do that.  She quit being a doctor not long after that, the third doctor I&#8217;ve had in a row who quit practicing after expressing frustration with insurance rules.</p>
<p>On the other hand, I&#8217;ve started asking medical people what they personally would do about routine screening examinations, annual tests, and so on.  Mostly they say they don&#8217;t bother with that stuff.  And statistically they&#8217;re no worse off, I gather.</p>
<p>I once talked with a pathologist at some length and he told me that one conclusion he&#8217;d come to after years of work is that he always avoids elective surgery of any sort.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m starting to agree.</p>
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		<title>By: dr. bean</title>
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		<dc:creator>dr. bean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hang in there, Rob! 

@Larry, universal coverage would be fine by me. It&#039;s single payer I&#039;m afraid of. The govt is already the biggest culprit re: soul-destroying paperwork and ticky-tack regulations that create more work without more pay. But my worst fear is that under single payer we as docs could be pressured (even more than we are now) to put the interests of &quot;society&quot; ahead of our patients&#039; interests.  At least right now nobody is leaning on me to euthanize my sick elderly patients to save money and calling it &quot;end of life care.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hang in there, Rob! </p>
<p>@Larry, universal coverage would be fine by me. It&#8217;s single payer I&#8217;m afraid of. The govt is already the biggest culprit re: soul-destroying paperwork and ticky-tack regulations that create more work without more pay. But my worst fear is that under single payer we as docs could be pressured (even more than we are now) to put the interests of &#8220;society&#8221; ahead of our patients&#8217; interests.  At least right now nobody is leaning on me to euthanize my sick elderly patients to save money and calling it &#8220;end of life care.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Donna W</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2008/09/09/its-not-our-fault/comment-page-1/#comment-2424</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I came here from Dr. Kevin MD.  This entry of yours addresses some concerns I&#039;ve had for a long time, and I appreciate your explaining the problem to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I came here from Dr. Kevin MD.  This entry of yours addresses some concerns I&#8217;ve had for a long time, and I appreciate your explaining the problem to me.</p>
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