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		<title>By: Better Health &#187; How To Fix Healthcare</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2009/04/15/since-you-asked/comment-page-1/#comment-4010</link>
		<dc:creator>Better Health &#187; How To Fix Healthcare</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 21:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Warmsocks</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2009/04/15/since-you-asked/comment-page-1/#comment-3933</link>
		<dc:creator>Warmsocks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 17:22:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;Unnecessary tests ordered - more likely in a setting where the patient is not known&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Is there anything that patients can do about this without making the doctor mad? Should patients be asking &quot;which lab tests are you ordering?&quot; and, if it&#039;s not one we recognize, &quot;why?&quot;  I&#039;d rather trust my doctor to do the right thing than have him think I&#039;m second-guessing everything he does.  But I just learned that my RD ordered a test for HLA-B27Ag. No wonder my lab work was $200 more than normal!  This is a test for something that typically affects (1)men, (2) onset ages 20s-30s, (3) main symptom: lower back pain. I do not fit ANY of these criteria.  I don&#039;t have any idea why this test was run and honestly feel that the guy was just running up my bill. How can the patient help control these costs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;Unnecessary tests ordered &#8211; more likely in a setting where the patient is not known&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Is there anything that patients can do about this without making the doctor mad? Should patients be asking &#8220;which lab tests are you ordering?&#8221; and, if it&#8217;s not one we recognize, &#8220;why?&#8221;  I&#8217;d rather trust my doctor to do the right thing than have him think I&#8217;m second-guessing everything he does.  But I just learned that my RD ordered a test for HLA-B27Ag. No wonder my lab work was $200 more than normal!  This is a test for something that typically affects (1)men, (2) onset ages 20s-30s, (3) main symptom: lower back pain. I do not fit ANY of these criteria.  I don&#8217;t have any idea why this test was run and honestly feel that the guy was just running up my bill. How can the patient help control these costs?</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2009/04/15/since-you-asked/comment-page-1/#comment-3930</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 14:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Burnsey:  The &quot;Medical Home&quot; is NOT a home for sick people.  I&#039;d freak out at that idea too.  At the present time, healthcare is paid for based on episodic care.  The more you are seen, the more the doctor or hospital gets paid.  Any coordination of care effort is not only unreimbursed, it actually decreases the pay of those who do it.  While many of us bite the bullet and do the right thing, it seems odd that a system would promote uncoordinated care and increased utilization of services by paying more for that.  The &quot;Medical Home&quot; is a concept where a physician - presumably a primary care physician - would be somehow be compensated to oversee care and do whatever possible to prevent unnecessary illness, services, and hospitalizations.  It stops penalizing doctors who try to do the right thing and instead gives them reward for doing what&#039;s right for the patient and for the system as a whole.

One of the reason people haven&#039;t jumped on this faster than they have is that they see it as an issue of greed on the part of the doctors.  The problem is that the docs in the best position to help the patients in this way are the ones least able to afford a decrease in income: the primary care docs.  PCP&#039;s get 1/2-1/8 of the pay of specialists, and many of them are simply leaving because of the way the system is going.

So for you, you could have someone who has incentive to make sure you get the preventive services, blood tests, and medications you need to stay away from the ER and minimize hospital stays.  As it is now, the system pays more if we do a bad job with you.  The medical home tries to right that wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Burnsey:  The &#8220;Medical Home&#8221; is NOT a home for sick people.  I&#8217;d freak out at that idea too.  At the present time, healthcare is paid for based on episodic care.  The more you are seen, the more the doctor or hospital gets paid.  Any coordination of care effort is not only unreimbursed, it actually decreases the pay of those who do it.  While many of us bite the bullet and do the right thing, it seems odd that a system would promote uncoordinated care and increased utilization of services by paying more for that.  The &#8220;Medical Home&#8221; is a concept where a physician &#8211; presumably a primary care physician &#8211; would be somehow be compensated to oversee care and do whatever possible to prevent unnecessary illness, services, and hospitalizations.  It stops penalizing doctors who try to do the right thing and instead gives them reward for doing what&#8217;s right for the patient and for the system as a whole.</p>
<p>One of the reason people haven&#8217;t jumped on this faster than they have is that they see it as an issue of greed on the part of the doctors.  The problem is that the docs in the best position to help the patients in this way are the ones least able to afford a decrease in income: the primary care docs.  PCP&#8217;s get 1/2-1/8 of the pay of specialists, and many of them are simply leaving because of the way the system is going.</p>
<p>So for you, you could have someone who has incentive to make sure you get the preventive services, blood tests, and medications you need to stay away from the ER and minimize hospital stays.  As it is now, the system pays more if we do a bad job with you.  The medical home tries to right that wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Burnsey</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2009/04/15/since-you-asked/comment-page-1/#comment-3929</link>
		<dc:creator>Burnsey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 13:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;These people need management, either in a “medical home” or by some sort of care management.&quot;

I don&#039;t see any comments about this particular line, but it scares the bejeezus out of me.  I happen to have AIDS and have been HIV positive for 20 + years, so I fall into that “uninsurable” category.  Could you tell me exactly what a &quot;Medical home&quot; would entail?  Because quite frankly it doesn&#039;t sound too far removed from the camps.  Are you advocating putting people like me away like they did Typhoid Mary?  Where and how, exactly, would you &quot;place&quot; people in one of these homes?  Quite frankly I enjoy living with my husband, even if he and I have a tougher time getting insured (or even if we cost the rest of the population a little extra money), I hardly think being put in a &quot;medical Home&quot; sounds reasonable.  I think suggestions like this particular one are quite scary.

Not to mention when you place someone in a &quot;medical home&quot; don&#039;t you then take over the cost of housing, food, and other costs?  Or would we just use those detention camps the Bush Administration had built for FEMA and Homeland Security?  Would I have my freedom to move about the country, or would I be checked in without the ability to check out?  Medical Home sounds a lot like detention facility or better a medical prison.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These people need management, either in a “medical home” or by some sort of care management.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t see any comments about this particular line, but it scares the bejeezus out of me.  I happen to have AIDS and have been HIV positive for 20 + years, so I fall into that “uninsurable” category.  Could you tell me exactly what a &#8220;Medical home&#8221; would entail?  Because quite frankly it doesn&#8217;t sound too far removed from the camps.  Are you advocating putting people like me away like they did Typhoid Mary?  Where and how, exactly, would you &#8220;place&#8221; people in one of these homes?  Quite frankly I enjoy living with my husband, even if he and I have a tougher time getting insured (or even if we cost the rest of the population a little extra money), I hardly think being put in a &#8220;medical Home&#8221; sounds reasonable.  I think suggestions like this particular one are quite scary.</p>
<p>Not to mention when you place someone in a &#8220;medical home&#8221; don&#8217;t you then take over the cost of housing, food, and other costs?  Or would we just use those detention camps the Bush Administration had built for FEMA and Homeland Security?  Would I have my freedom to move about the country, or would I be checked in without the ability to check out?  Medical Home sounds a lot like detention facility or better a medical prison.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2009/04/15/since-you-asked/comment-page-1/#comment-3928</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:49:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>piper: Unfortunately, catholic hospitals, along with other non-profit hospitals, are subject to the other insanity in the system and have to play harsh or not at all.  That money to hospitals (which two of our hospitals are spending as well), won&#039;t go toward good things, it goes to increase profit-centers like cardiac procedure units.  It&#039;s not profitable to do good.

Beowulf: No, 5% is not the % of the &quot;uninsurable,&quot; I just used it to demonstrate the lopsidedness of spending.  I would bump that number to 10% or even 15% of people who have chronic illness.  Many (most) of them are of Medicare age, so &quot;uninsurable&quot; is a misnomer.  The bottom line is that we need to control the cost in a small segment through better management of these high cost patients.  Any problems with the system (such as over-utilization and poor communication) are amplified in them, and so savings would also be more dramatic.

T Joey: I actually initially wasn&#039;t against the DTC marketing, as they had some good in educating the public.  The problem is that it gives the public a slanted view of things - slanted toward views that would recommend buying lots of products from Pharma.  

RLS is real and treating it can be dramatic, but education of physicians would be far more fruitful than the public.  The problem with that, of course, is that they are limited in educating physicians as well.  They may not be well-liked, but the have to be able to advertise &lt;i&gt;somehow&lt;/i&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>piper: Unfortunately, catholic hospitals, along with other non-profit hospitals, are subject to the other insanity in the system and have to play harsh or not at all.  That money to hospitals (which two of our hospitals are spending as well), won&#8217;t go toward good things, it goes to increase profit-centers like cardiac procedure units.  It&#8217;s not profitable to do good.</p>
<p>Beowulf: No, 5% is not the % of the &#8220;uninsurable,&#8221; I just used it to demonstrate the lopsidedness of spending.  I would bump that number to 10% or even 15% of people who have chronic illness.  Many (most) of them are of Medicare age, so &#8220;uninsurable&#8221; is a misnomer.  The bottom line is that we need to control the cost in a small segment through better management of these high cost patients.  Any problems with the system (such as over-utilization and poor communication) are amplified in them, and so savings would also be more dramatic.</p>
<p>T Joey: I actually initially wasn&#8217;t against the DTC marketing, as they had some good in educating the public.  The problem is that it gives the public a slanted view of things &#8211; slanted toward views that would recommend buying lots of products from Pharma.  </p>
<p>RLS is real and treating it can be dramatic, but education of physicians would be far more fruitful than the public.  The problem with that, of course, is that they are limited in educating physicians as well.  They may not be well-liked, but the have to be able to advertise <i>somehow</i>.</p>
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		<title>By: T Joey</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2009/04/15/since-you-asked/comment-page-1/#comment-3926</link>
		<dc:creator>T Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>After writing about my &quot;theory&quot; on Restless Leg Syndrome I actually looked it up to check my hypothesis.  I guess it is real and serious - sorry if I&#039;ve belittled anyone&#039;s condition.  However, I seek to use this example to demonstrate the foolishness of those ads.  

They led me to ridicule a condition because they don&#039;t represent the condition accurately and couldn&#039;t in a 30 second ad.  I was left to imagine who could have such a condition and my brain equated restless with a child&#039;s energy level being unspent - ie the leg being restless because the person was lazy and leaving the energy (too many calories) unspent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After writing about my &#8220;theory&#8221; on Restless Leg Syndrome I actually looked it up to check my hypothesis.  I guess it is real and serious &#8211; sorry if I&#8217;ve belittled anyone&#8217;s condition.  However, I seek to use this example to demonstrate the foolishness of those ads.  </p>
<p>They led me to ridicule a condition because they don&#8217;t represent the condition accurately and couldn&#8217;t in a 30 second ad.  I was left to imagine who could have such a condition and my brain equated restless with a child&#8217;s energy level being unspent &#8211; ie the leg being restless because the person was lazy and leaving the energy (too many calories) unspent.</p>
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		<title>By: T Joey</title>
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		<dc:creator>T Joey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 06:31:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think one of the best items you&#039;ve identified is the ban on direct marketing of drugs to consumers (patients are who see doctors, consumers see commercials).  I think the the relationship between drug company and patient should have a very big barrier in front of it: the doctor.  

Listening to the ads I can only think that they are: a) suggestive - possibly inducing psychosomatic symptoms b) frightening - the side effects and the gravity of them can not be digested in a 30 second add, and c) a costly redundancy - how much are those ads costing the company and why not save on that budget entirely and let the doctor do what he is trained to do and will do anyway - he&#039;ll get your drug out to the marketplace if it is the appropriate remedy.  If it isn&#039;t the appropriate remedy may it would worthwhile seeing if there is a better use of your R+D dollars.  I&#039;m sure the good doctor can correct me but I&#039;m 99% convinced Restless Leg Syndrome is a your legs begging lazy people to go for a walk.

I can only imagine the seed that gets planted into people&#039;s heads as they head to the doctors office with a legitimate symptom thinking they&#039;ll be treated with Brand XYZ&#039;s new drug only to be written a Rx for something different causing frustration on the part of the consumer questioning the care being &quot;sold&quot; to them as they forget they are a patient of a doctor who has been trained to prescribe prescriptions appropriately.  

Besides, I hate those ads on top of what I can only imagine the harm they are doing to the health care system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think one of the best items you&#8217;ve identified is the ban on direct marketing of drugs to consumers (patients are who see doctors, consumers see commercials).  I think the the relationship between drug company and patient should have a very big barrier in front of it: the doctor.  </p>
<p>Listening to the ads I can only think that they are: a) suggestive &#8211; possibly inducing psychosomatic symptoms b) frightening &#8211; the side effects and the gravity of them can not be digested in a 30 second add, and c) a costly redundancy &#8211; how much are those ads costing the company and why not save on that budget entirely and let the doctor do what he is trained to do and will do anyway &#8211; he&#8217;ll get your drug out to the marketplace if it is the appropriate remedy.  If it isn&#8217;t the appropriate remedy may it would worthwhile seeing if there is a better use of your R+D dollars.  I&#8217;m sure the good doctor can correct me but I&#8217;m 99% convinced Restless Leg Syndrome is a your legs begging lazy people to go for a walk.</p>
<p>I can only imagine the seed that gets planted into people&#8217;s heads as they head to the doctors office with a legitimate symptom thinking they&#8217;ll be treated with Brand XYZ&#8217;s new drug only to be written a Rx for something different causing frustration on the part of the consumer questioning the care being &#8220;sold&#8221; to them as they forget they are a patient of a doctor who has been trained to prescribe prescriptions appropriately.  </p>
<p>Besides, I hate those ads on top of what I can only imagine the harm they are doing to the health care system.</p>
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		<title>By: beowulf888</title>
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		<dc:creator>beowulf888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yikes. Because I used less-than, greater than characters, I lost crucial sentence in my previous comment. Let me restate it without href symbols: &quot;I suspect that the percentage of uninsurable rises from a small percentage in the under-25 age cohort, to 99-percent in over-50 age cohort.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yikes. Because I used less-than, greater than characters, I lost crucial sentence in my previous comment. Let me restate it without href symbols: &#8220;I suspect that the percentage of uninsurable rises from a small percentage in the under-25 age cohort, to 99-percent in over-50 age cohort.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: beowulf888</title>
		<link>http://distractible.org/2009/04/15/since-you-asked/comment-page-1/#comment-3922</link>
		<dc:creator>beowulf888</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 03:43:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only 5 percent are uninsurable? I suspect that the percentage of uninsurable rises from a small percentage in the age 50 age cohort. A couple I know just moved back to the States -- she had a good job waiting for her, and he quit his job overseas to move back with her. At the last minute, after she had moved, her job offer was withdrawn. She happens to be pregnant. She&#039;s uninsurable, because pregnancy is a &quot;pre-existing&quot; condition. As for myself, I&#039;ve been a otherwise healthy Type I diabetic for 40 years now. I&#039;m uninsurable because of my pre-exisiting condition. God help me if I lose my job and my group-health plan. Unless insurance companies are forced to insure everyone regardless of their health history, health care will remain broken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only 5 percent are uninsurable? I suspect that the percentage of uninsurable rises from a small percentage in the age 50 age cohort. A couple I know just moved back to the States &#8212; she had a good job waiting for her, and he quit his job overseas to move back with her. At the last minute, after she had moved, her job offer was withdrawn. She happens to be pregnant. She&#8217;s uninsurable, because pregnancy is a &#8220;pre-existing&#8221; condition. As for myself, I&#8217;ve been a otherwise healthy Type I diabetic for 40 years now. I&#8217;m uninsurable because of my pre-exisiting condition. God help me if I lose my job and my group-health plan. Unless insurance companies are forced to insure everyone regardless of their health history, health care will remain broken.</p>
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		<title>By: piper</title>
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		<dc:creator>piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 01:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ellipse,  The catholic hospital I&#039;m sure is non-profit, which means that they have to pour any profits back into the hospital complex itself or buy new equipment, provide charity care, etc.  The ideal scenario, IMHO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellipse,  The catholic hospital I&#8217;m sure is non-profit, which means that they have to pour any profits back into the hospital complex itself or buy new equipment, provide charity care, etc.  The ideal scenario, IMHO.</p>
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